NME – Trop Belle Pour Toi!!
02nd August 1997
Interview

Once again, Glasgow has provided the world with something special. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN will become one of the most important bands of the Nineties. Oh yes. And if they don’t, well, we’ll force-feed all veggies with haggis every day for a year.
EVERYONE wants to talk to Stuart Murdoch, the boy with the lilting voice and perversely romantic imagination who sings for Belle And Sebastian. They want to ask him how he and his band have managed to fill a gap in their lives that they didn’t even know existed, a gap fashioned from love and obsession and all of the sweet indulgences of passion. They’re keen to hear the stories behind the songs on the “lf You’re Feeling Sinister” album that made them cry in strange places and besotted with the idea of an icon: someone who could mean as much as to them as Robert Forster and Morrissey meant to the dreamers of the Eighties.
But Stuart doesn’t want his personality to cloud what Belle And Sebastian mean as a collective group. And he doesn’t want the others to feel left out or overlooked. He worries, so he keeps quiet. He’s doing the right thing, he’s sure.
“The band Belle And Sebastian is really not about me,” he says, sipping tea in his Glasgow flat. “The interesting things happen when it goes beyond me. I do like talking. I like meeting new people and chatting away and I like talking about the band. But l am sitting here desperately trying to deflect all the questions.”

STUART isn’t being difficult here, just true to himself and his ideals. Belle And Sebastian has, after all, been a long time coming for him. He describes his life before the band as “average” and “directionless” and freely admits that he was a late starter on the creative front.
“I really was pretty hopeless up until three years ago,” he smiles. “I didn’t do very much at all. And short stories or pictures or songs or poems all come from the same little seed of inspiration and so I couldn’t write a story until I could write a song and I couldn’t write a song until three years ago. It just came.”
Are your songs autobiographical at all?
“Only as much as a biography is a reflection of what you know. Some people say they like to remain in a vacuum and create something new but I don’t believe it can be done. It’s all your experiences. A wee bit autobiographical, a wee bit not. Sometimes they’re based on the lives of other people, sometimes they’re just imagined situations. It’s all an indulgence.”
One of the short stories Stuart wrote was called “Belle And Sebastian”. Is Belle, Isobel the band’s violin player?
“No. I wrote that before I met Isobel. It was about a girl, and this boy teaches her how to play guitar. I used to imagine him writing songs and this would be a Belle song and this would be a Sebastian song. And I would arrange my tapes in Belle and Sebastian songs and it got a bit daft when it came to playing music to real people. I’ll probably put that story on a record sometime.”
That’s quite a romantic story. Are you a romantic person?
“In the old sense of the word, probably, utterly, yes. Completely. A hopeless romantic? I’m a romantic and probably pretty hopeless at certain things. NO,f*** that. I’m not hopeless. I get things done. I made two LPs last year.”
Someone who always falls for romance, then?
“I’m trying less and less,” he nods. “I think being involved in this record made me wake up fast. You have to. You can’t just think about yourself any more, you have to think about other people. You have to be less romantic.”
Do you fall in love easily?
“Not really, no. Certain things you love. It’s a different notion to falling in love.”

BELLE And Sebastian’s new single, the effortlessly gorgeous “Lazy Line Painter Jane”, has Stuart singing, “You will have a boy tonight on the first bus out of town”. Buses seem to figure fairly largely in the Belle And Sebastian world, with adolescent graffiti being scrawled on bus stops and lovelorn boys having to admit that “Riding on city buses for a hobby is sad”. Why buses, Stuart?
“I don’t really know. I’d like to be a bus driver. Shouting at people and driving past their stops.”
It’s quite a solitary thing.
“Yeah. Maybe that’s it. There’s only a certain amount of human contact you get. Am I a solitary person? In lots of ways, yes. In a selfish way. I’m sounding like a class one mambo here.”
When Stuart wasn’t daydreaming his life away on the Glasgow’s orange buses, he would occasionally hitch his was around the country. And his wandering days aren’t over apparently.
“I hitchhike down to London quite a lot. Me and my friend hitch together and it’s easier. People don’t mind picking up a couple. It’s fine because you hitch from the middle of Glasgow and it’s no effort because you can see the hipsters and the doleys walking by and it’s a nice place to sit”
Do you not have to talk to the person driving?
“Oh incessantly,” Stuart laughs. “That’s the thing. l’m this really quiet guy from Glasgow, but as soon as you get in that car you’ve get this broad Scots accent going, ‘F***ing right, mate. Ah, the lassies.’ Bollocks like that”
Stuart smiles in a way that has you rejoicing that Belle And Sebastian can be so down to earth. As drummer Chris Geddes points out, they’re “human beings, not sensitivity machines”, flesh and blood thinkers and lovers who just happen to create some of the most inspiring, euphoric and tender songs eveer. Like “Get Me Away From Herel’m Dying”, where Stuart bemoans the fact that their unphotogenic looks will hinder their chances of stardom.
“That’s a bit tongue in cheek, although I really thought we didn’t stand a chance. I didn’t mean that because I’m quite a hard person to know, but when we made our first little forays, I thought we’d get shot down in flames.”
Is that why you don’t like to appear in your photos?
“I think if you think you have to pose and see your own sickening face then you’re in a bad way.”

BELLE And Sebastian are rapidly becoming the most important thing in my and many other people’s lives, a poetic balm in an age of thuggish bluster. And, with the likes of Radiohead as fans (Thom asked B&S to support them on their world tour, but Stuart and co opted for their own dignified way), they’re set to become much much more popular. What are your hopes for B&S, Stuart?
“That we remain friends. That we can still look each other in the eye at three week intervals. Just to get on. But they’re very good. I couldn’t wish for better players.”
And we couldn’t wish for a better band.

Ian Watson

record reviews
live reviews
interviews
articles